Just Filed a Missing Persons Report on my Boys.

[defaultuser]

you don't have a ROFR? Fathers day wasn't your parenting time?

I would think that if you showed up to where the kids are located you'd get them. Easier said than done I'm sure.

[tom kirkpatrick]

I've seen this sort of thing happen before. Cops willfully fail to do their sworn duty.

Translation = Law enforcement is part & parcel with the other side.

In other words, the system can't be trusted. There's nothing you can do except take matters into your own hands.

If you want to see your son again, GET THAT WRIT!! Get an AMBER ALERT. Hire a private investigator. Do whatever it takes. If you trip over your foreskin in the process, so what!!

Rule of thumb = Nothing ventured, nothing gained. There's an awful lot at stake here for you to simply trust the system.

Remember, you can lead a horse to water, but the rest is up to him. All I know is that the legal system will do absolutely nothing on your behalf. If you take their advice and do nothing yourself, then that's your choice.

If nothing else, watch carefully as the judicial junta raises red flag after red flag right under under your nose. Watch helplessly as they do anything and everything to thwart your efforts. In the end, your ex will be granted sole custody and move to another state.

Mark my word. If you do nothing today, that's what's in store tomorrow.

Tom

[kangaroocourt]

Turns out NJ went off the deep end like I Thought. She went into the police station in a different suburb where they called an ambulance and admitted her. S1 & S8 were with her and the cops called her brother who came and got them. I was not called.
Brother apparently called child services to take pocession of the kids. Investig,ator went out there, but somehow my kids were handed over to NJs parents. Again I was not called.
The police department in my suburb (where I filed the missing persons report yesterday), says this is "sticky" as far as me being able to enforce the law to give me my children. But as of now they are still having trouble actually locating the grandparents (I am in IL, and grandparents own a home in IA and MO).
I know it's Sunday, but I called and left a message with my lawyer and thr GAL. This is the big break my lawyer said I neededin order to be able to motion for custody and exclusive occupancy back to me.. Man I wanna celebrate, but I get the feeling it aint over yet. God knows I aint slept on 3 days.

'Sticky' to enforce the law? Give me an f-ing break. This should be as easy as making a phone call. I'm with the last poster on this...get an amber alert. Make such a stink that they CAN'T ignore you.

[grgr]

Police do not have the authority to enforce (or decide) something that is a civil matter, at least not where I live.

That being said, this would not be a custody dispute (civil matter) between two parents. This would be an issue between a parent and grandparent who would have no more rights then a daycare provider, a neighbor, or a stranger in the park. IMHO, with the proper proof that you are the dad, the police should make the grandparents give the kids to you and THEN it becomes a civil matter for the court to decide if you were in violation of the custody order.

Try using that approach with the police, after (and in conjunction with) doing the writ, amber alert, etc. suggested by the others. Don't ask the police ahead of time, go there so they actually have to deal with it.

If push comes to shove, the grandparents probably would not want to risk some type of legal/criminal ramifications by refusing to turn their grandsons over to their parent, especially in the face of an amber alert, etc.

[Hopin4daBest]

Fellas. First of all I want to say thank you to all here who took the time to post here. Was a truly worrisome and sleepless week for me.
So to make a super long story short.. I got my boys back, with an EOP to boot, also granting me exclusive occupancy on my house.
NJ is still in the psych unit. Word is, she might be there a while.
Moved in my house yesterday. Man, feels weird. Been 9 months since I was ordered out. Based on the stats here, I never thought I'd see these walls again. Flukes happen. Lawyer joked that he should play a lottery ticket.
Whatever. I've been telling them how bonkers she is since last year. Meh. It is what it is.
Anyway. Had guests today. Child service..Then GAL.
Bring it on. This dad's sane.
They seem to concur. They just seem worried about me. Worried that NJ is in there doing 100 chin ups like Sarah Connor in the beginning of Terminator 2. All while studying case law.

[defaultuser]

How weird is it to have your house back? Is all her stuff still there?

If so, I'm guessing she's going to claim you broke/sold everything she cared about. If I were you, I'd take an inventory with video camera before I box her stuff up. Either that or build a bon fire in the back yard

[Hopin4daBest]

How weird is it to have your house back? Is all her stuff still there?

If so, I'm guessing she's going to claim you broke/sold everything she cared about. If I were you, I'd take an inventory with video camera before I box her stuff up. Either that or build a bon fire in the back yard

oh yea. Like she was just here. I even booted her laptop, restored browsers and smiled at the mr wonderful messages on fb. Did I feel tempted to write on her wall like she did on mine when she hacked my account last year? Crossed my mind.
Left it alone. Not my style. I've got some decent karma going. No need to stir things up that will gain me nothing. Sure, revenge would be sweet, but the satisfaction short lived. Could I warn the guy of what's in store for him. I suppose. Though I'd hedge a bet that he'd just blow me off as some bitter ex, or a co**block.
But DefUser, you touch on a pressing matter...how and when do I box this stuff up? I was leaning on waiting until the follow up hearing for her to respond to EOP, if she's even out by then.

[Trevor]

You've changed the locks on all the exterior doors, changed the home security system code, and the garage door opener code, right?

[defaultuser]

I would take some video of the house as you found it. Even if that means changing the date on your video recorder and documenting now.

Then, I'd inventory the things that are hers, such as clothes and stuff, box them up and label the boxes. If it were me, I'd be trying to get this stuff out of the house as quickly as possible. See if the parents will take possession of it. That way, it will be more difficult for her to move back in.

[Hopin4daBest]

@Trevor: Absolutely.
@Def: Good point. Gonna be alot of work to put in while S1 is sleeping. Requesting some time off work now to arrange day care. S8 will need camp. Then I need to get my bank on the phone, because no ones called me since I went to their foreclosure prevention workshop last week. They said I was possibly approved for a loan mod, but gave me nothing in writing. Meanwhile a lawyer filed a foreclosure on me and I need to appear by next week or it says a judgement by default may be entered against me. I will need to show up and explain that I'm occupying the house, and that I'm being told by my bank that they're trying to work with me. I will tell them that I'm paying all utilities, cutting the grass, and that S8's school is right there. Hopefully this will buy me time. I may need to talk to an attorney for real estate to start getting some answers from my bank in writing.