Advice: gonna have to represent myself at PO hearing JAN20th

[GA_DevastatedDad]

Well okay sorry I had technical difficulties earlier ....
anyway I didn't mean to give wrong impression I just wanted to state that what needluck, fof and a lot of you were saying was quoted word for word. But I think I won kinda????......the judge got frustrated with me because I kept insisting on being heard today without an attorney hell waiting another month wasn't gonna help. so I wanted this over with. Then the Questions began LOL It was a mess then when I was talking basically telling my side I swear he wasn't even looking at me I think he was reading a girly magazine....... really
seriously he wasn't paying my side any attention reading papers on his stand or what ever. [color=#0000FF] So I stopped, pause and took a deep and I said you all playing a game talking about this isn't a custody hearing its about a protective order well this is about my son my son is in danger with a women who threaten suicide, and bought the gun to do it with and the bullets. your honor this is the note here. the PO took custody away from me so dont tell me this isn't custody and to wait till a custody hearing cause Who signed this order (like i didnt know it was the same judge i was talking to) by the time this hearing comes along my child could be hurt or worse look at the things she has done already etc etc..... then the the Judge finally begin to make statements and ask me questions.[/color]

Well mr AMMMA you saying this but I have to make a decision with whats in front of me today

so have you ever been arrested for FV?
ammma=arrogant marine mixed martial artist
short answer yes

when?

2007

Ok Mr AMMMA have you been charge with FV since then?

NO

ARE you sure?

YES your honor never

Well What about this Battery in 2010?

It was disorderly conduct I was later arrested for battery through someone going to a friend filing for a warrant but your honor I never hit anyone. it was a disorderly conduct ticket here or the solicitors notes. I was a bouncer and Somebody.......

you mean this wasn't your wife?

No your honor.

She wasn't the involved with that at all?

no your honor,

Well you were charge with child cruelty NOV 1st?

yes

For fighting in the persents of your child?

No

??

yes but i would like to explain. STBX called me that day your honor, she called me 21 timer saying she had to get the child that night. when I arrived she told me to move closer to her car when I got out to deliver the child like we have done a hundred times before I was walking child to car when I saw a guy get out it was her brother at first but he made a statement to the effect of I'm gonna teach your husband a lesson, then he was coming over to me quickly saying he was gonna < edited > me up. I wanna to get my boy back into my vehicle but he was coming to fast So I began to separate from the boy, for the guy was focused on me and had my cut off from entry into my vehicle and was furious about me telling his wife about the affair ....... your honor I just want everyone to think about this IF I was gonna kick his as wouldnt I do it with emotions high. when I came home and he was in the yard? Wouldnt I do it when emotions were that hi. so why didnt I. yes it hurt but i heard my little boy in the back ground and I knew the situation was out of control so i got in my car and left. I only came back when I saw the sheriff headed towards the house....your honor why would I do that then but a month and a half later decide to attack the guy while I'm wearing dress pants with Kohon dress shoes. Your honor she arranged for this she called me twenty one time to get me there and when I got there they were ready and they both attacked me. I didnt attack anyone I chose to flee but couldn't. he came up on me.

What did you say to him?

I told him to stop that I knew he had a weapon, but it ain't going down like that.

Then what happened Mr AMMMA?

Your honor I beat the dogg $h!t out of him..he was all whinning and calling for help from innocent bystanders. even the bystanders were like you deserve what you get. why you come up here anyway. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
no but seriously I said your honor I can't answer the rest because there is a criminal case pending. but will tell you she and the guy attacked me.

Judge said aiight that enough I am ordering protective order until the custody hearing (i think he said mutual) and told her lawyer that I better have a custody hearing at most by Feb 29th If not he's gonna wanna know why.......until then everything will remain the same....
I told the Judge why don't he just fire me right now....
he asked me to repeat
.. like I said in the beginning this wasn't our agreed upon schedule and I couldnt continue to pick up my son on sundays at 2pm my job just tolerated it on a temporary basis but now are tired of it because of continuaces. I need to be available on Sundays. He told me and her Lawyer to go outside and work something out. I think I won in that respect. I actually ended up with more nights with my kid then i began....the orignal order was 2pm sunday - 6 pm tuesday...... now it is she will put him on bus monday morning from there hes with me----- I put him on the bus thursday morning from there he is with her. I didn't get anything in writing so I will still be at the location this sunday just in case she tries something like saying we didn't agree to that.
oh yeah and I blurt your honor what about my son
he's still in danger with her and him I told you I don't care about the PO I care about my son.
She's putting him in the dark, and she's effing with his mind telling him the other guy is his daddy. she bring the guy to the pick up and drop offs for my boy......
wait a minute mrs stbx come back up here? are you bring the guy to pick ups and drop offs with the son?
No
it was evident judge didnt believe her cause his next words were
I ordering that the guy is to be no where around Mr AMMMA or AMMMA JR for the drop off
NOW THATS WHAT SELL SKILLS I WAS TELL YOU ABOUT. DOESN'T MATTER HOW THE PAY FOR IT OR WHO PAYS FOR IT. JUST THAT YOU GET THE SELL.
A WIN IN MY BOOK YAWLL

Mrs stbx is the boyfriend living in the home

no

*that is a lie I have her on tape saying he lives there and his clothes are there can i file a motion....or should I just take that to the temporary custody hearing?

OH ONE MORE THING I COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS WITH OUT YOU ALLS HELP AND CONSTANTLY GRILLING ME HOPIN4DABEST,BARTSIMPSON, JEHR, MAX HOOSIER DAD, TREVOR, FOF NEEDLUCK CAPSLOCK JUMBLE DEFUALT USER MISSMY KIDS and all the people i just cant remember while typing I HATE YOUR GUTS!!! THANK YOU SINCERELY THANK YOU THOUGH I BUMBLE AND FUMBLE THROUGH IT THIS PROTECTION ORDERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A YEAR LONG . THE JUDGE WAS ACTUALLY PREPARED TO RULE THAT WAY AT ONE POINT. AND I WAS READY TO ANSWER THE MAIN QUESTION OF THE DAY. WHY DID YOU LEAVE THE SCENCE?

[GA_DevastatedDad]

also I wanna let you all know though I talked a lot of crap about selling skills and AMMMA the part thats in blue and some parts left out were said with tears running down my face. The bailiff was bringing me napkins while I pleading to the judge about just wanting to be the best dad I could to my son. make sure you read the bottom of that post i know it may be long

[dadmisseskids]

Judge said aiight that enough I am ordering protective order until the custody hearing

So the protective order is still in effect and wasn't dropped?

Your post is a little confusing but it sounds like the judge is annoyed with both of you. If the PO wasn't dropped, you aren't out of the woods yet.

[Fatheroffour]

Yeah, the narrative is a little scattered. I take away a couple of things.

1) That DD feels it didn't go as bad as expected. Thats good.
2)The judge didn't continue the PO for a year but until the Temp hearing, hopefully by Febb 29th.
3) The judge 'orders' other guy to be no where around OP or the son at the drop off. Not sure what that means. Not much of anything unless DD actually has a signed order in hand placing restrictions on BF in some way. Whatever happens, I suggest recording all exchanges and if the BF is there to absolutely, positively do nothing to engage in any way shape manner or form.
4) DD has approx 30 days to prepare for a temp hearing.

Seems to me that the entire OP's situation was tailor made for those video glasses posted about earlier. They put the viewer in exactly the position the recorder was in and their POV of what they saw and heard. I would seriously consider a pair. I actually took this pic last night at Target and sent it to my buddy that has the pair.



A kids toy for 30 bucks, used at a critical time, could change the entire course of a custody battle or criminal case.

[Trevor]

Seems what came out of it were mutual protective orders and the OM excluded from exchanges, which is a win indeed considering the circumstances. And you get MORE time with your boy, which is awesome...that's what those tears were for, you big galoot. Congratulations.

It is hard to read your posts but I understand the emotion. You write like you talk (I suppose) and sometimes it takes a few reads to understand the sentence, because you are...let's say "creative" with your use of punctuation and language.

When I read the exchange with the judge I would say be sure your tone is appropriate for the courtroom. In some cases, challenging the judge like you did will result in a severe smackdown...but then based on what he said and did after that I guess he did not perceive it as a personal offense (yes their skin is very thin if you are not toeing the line of deference).

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[BartSimpson]

Perhaps the OP will start a new thread in regards to future matters, as this one is clouded with a PO matter that is resolved for now.

I have stated before, the community is well served by keeping these folks separated, as the litany of incidents has a social impact on the community beyond these two folks and their child. When keeping score, there seems to be several incidents a year, for the last 5 years, that bring the OP and STBX to the attention of Law Enforcement. The OP can explain them; expundged, didn't happen like that, technically no arrest, self-defense. But it has been too much, time for a change.

If the OP wants to improve his chances, I strongly urge him to consider abstinence until the next hearing. Skip the merlot with the steak, the beer with football, simply stop drinking. You need your rest, you need to focus, you need not be "too sleepy" - in general, you need to be more organized fast. Not drinking will be important for that.

Why do I say this? Because one thing really stands out in this thread - everything is effing last minute! Where is this form? Who is that Witness? What does a subpoena look like?

You have a battle on two fronts, criminal with the beat-down and civil with the custody. You do not have time for anything else - particularly if it hinders your thoughts.

[GA_DevastatedDad]

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So the protective order is still in effect and wasn't dropped?
Your post is a little confusing but it sounds like the judge is annoyed with both of you. If the PO wasn't dropped, you aren't out of the woods yet.

I think everybody has to stay away from everybody. STBX's lawyer said the "PO is only until the Temp custody hearing which will be no later then FeB 29th after that what ever is decided there takes over"
I asked was PO part over. he said yes this part is done. I asked for something in writing he said you will get that next week when the judge signs off on the order. he(lawyer) is drafting it but doesnt know if the Judge
will sign off on it today"
Thats the part I don't trust, the Judge told him go draft the order for the things he said, of course he knows I can't do it competently or really at all.
So i will see if those trans scripts are available Monday morning and take them too the Law School.

[GA_DevastatedDad]

Couple things:
your nj lied under oath, and you can prove it, that could help you tremendously. Order the transcript from Friday. I can not overstated the importance of this. You must do it soon because it takes a while to get done.

* side note- it is making a sale...not a sell. It is sales, not sells.

gonna start a new thread now with better gramer entitled custody and lying under

[dadmisseskids]

So the PO was dropped but remains in effect for another 30 days? Seems weird but perhaps the judge wanted legal restrictions (stay away from each other) between the two of you until your custody hearing.

I'm in agreement with Bart's post. This reminds me (of course on a lower level) of OJ Simpson. He escaped jail time for murdering someone. He was lucky. If he would have just STFU, he'd be somewhere in the Caribbean sipping on some margarita's. Instead he pulls a gun on someone and then gets lots of jail time.

All he had to do was just keep his mouth shut and himself out of trouble. He did neither and now he's locked in a jail cell with Bubba.