Deadbeat mom

[Miles Rogers]

I was awarded custody last February of my two kids. Their mother quit her nursing job in order to avoid paying any support. Now she provides in home daycare. She is married to a guy that quit his job because he is about twenty thousand dollars behind in his support. Between the two of them, they have seven kids and can't even support themselves. I paid her support for seven years before I gained custody. Should I even bother to go after her? I think all single fathers should band together and try to give the same publicity to "deadbeat moms" as would be given to us if we avoided our responsibilities!

Thanks for your time.

Miles

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[raf in OR]

If she provides in home daycare, then she has an income.

In order for the people she is providing daycare for to claim the child care expense on their taxes, they would have to give her SS# and therefore she would have to report it to the IRS.

Is it my understanding that when you obtained custody you were not awarded any CS? That is grossly unfair. She has a responsibility to these children.

I would contact CSE and have them go after her. This shouldn't cost you anything. The states do this for moms all the time.

If he doesn't work, how do they support themselves?

[Miles]

Hello,

I was awarded child support, but she immediately quit her job. I believe she is babysitting for cash, therefore nothing is claimed on either end. They exist on odd jobs, handouts and ??? They once even claimed a fake break in so they could collect insurance money (this was before I was awarded custody). This is a twisted situation!

Thanks,

Miles

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[Lawmoe]

You should seek child support. It is likely that the Court would consider her voluntarily underemployted and impute income. Moreover, even if she were not voluntarily underemployed, most state statutes have a base level of support that must be paid.

[No·MAD]

Please tell us that your two kids have not been spending the majority of the time with their mother since she quit her job LAST FEBRUARYand started the at home daycare.

She will EASILY have status quo and have the kids returned to her custody. You will likely be paying support to HER.


To find out her income this is what you do...
Have someone call her and act like a prospective client. Have them ask her every question you might want to know....such as cost, and number of kids/client she has, and how long she's had them. If you are feeling really ambitious you could even have them ask to stop by to check out the place.
Chances are that she is not licensed to be taking care of more than 3 kids (not certain on the laws in your specific state) and chances are that she does not meet the environmental requirments...but this may be largely irrelevant. What you need is to get confessions recorded, and if the children are staying with her the majority of the time you need to find some creative solutions to change this IMMEDIATELY.


Notes on legalities of recording calls:

http://dadsdivorce.com/phorum/read.php? ... eply_76010



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[nuke]

I guess my answer would depend on what you hope to accomplish.

If she is a dangerous evil woman who is a detriment to your children, more so than the loss of said mother, then pursue child support with a vengeance. You will likely succeed in driving her away, because she clearly doesn't give d*mn about her responsibilities or find responsibility a desirable attribute.

If you really just need some extra help, then you are probably SOL. She probably will never give it. And if she isn't an awful destructive parent, you will be doing your children a great disservice by driving her away.

[No·MAD]

Good point nuke. They are supporting seven children...plus an in-home daycare.

There is an interesting story hiding behind the scenes here.

However - The fact that Miles, being a father, was awarded custody does speak volumes.


Miles you mentioned the term "Deadbeat mom" so in order to fulfill my quota (which I'm very far behind) I now must post the Malicious Mother Syndrom link once more...although perhaps largely irrelevant in this circumstance.

Malicious Mother Syndrome

http://fact.on.ca/Info/pas/turkat95.htm

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[Josh]

Have her thrown in jail. She is a deadbeat. She needs to pay. Her employment is not your problem. How many times have men heard that from judge.

[Miles]

Absolutley not!!! They go to daycare next door to my home. I wouldn't allow them to go to her daily because of her drinking problem. That's partly why I got custody in the first place! I will eventually get proof that she's working for cash. Meanwhile the monthly support keeps building up.

Thanks.

Miles

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[nuke]

FYI- just because she is no longer employed, child support is not reduced to 0. IT remains in full effect until she asks the court to change it, due to her unemployment. And even that won't remove any arrears that have accrued prior to her motion to modify. If she leaves things as they are she will financially hang herself. Even after your kids are 18 you can go after the monies owed.