Well, what do you think?

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Well, what do you think?

Postby thecaptain24 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:12 pm

My ex has been swearing up and down i beat her and my son. Actually she texted me literally 6 hours ago, saying my son said he fears me and does not want me at his play therapy. Then about an hour ago I got this and i quote:

"When is your mom coming"- Ex
"The 5th through the 12th"- Me
"Do you not agree we need to compromise for [son]"- Ex
"I have been saying that this entire time. Compromise doesn't mean however, i do as you say or you threaten to take him away.What do you wish we compromise on"-Me
"I never said I would take him away, you did! Like what is wrong with us picking up [son] and dropping him off at our homes, both of us would stay in cars, very civil and it would be easy for [son], like we did before I left, I loved the relationship we had before I left, we both didn't have pick up problems, and we both went to [sons] games and were very civil. And it was good! Was it not??? And I would like a good relationship between us and our parents!!! For [son] don't you think, I believe I showed that I want that by putting my feelings aside for Christmas, can't you?"-Ex

She continues on for another 45 minutes. About our past, how happy we were, how great it was-so and so. How our son needs both of us..

Think she just screwed herself?

*Note: this came on because I emailed her after she showed up at my home unannounced on Christmas. I told her i'd only meet her at a police station, and she keeps begging me to let her come to my home, and me to hers. I keep telling her no and told her i would be seeking a no contact order through my chain of command.
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby Dad1st&4ever » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:36 pm

I'm no expert but that CAN'T be good for her "case".

*Note: this came on because I emailed her after she showed up at my home unannounced on Christmas. I told her i'd only meet her at a police station, and she keeps begging me to let her come to my home, and me to hers. I keep telling her no and told her i would be seeking a no contact order through my chain of command.


I hope you documented the poo outta this. A person who is afraid of you does not want to come and hang out around you.
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby thecaptain24 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:51 am

Dad1st&4ever wrote:I'm no expert but that CAN'T be good for her "case".

*Note: this came on because I emailed her after she showed up at my home unannounced on Christmas. I told her i'd only meet her at a police station, and she keeps begging me to let her come to my home, and me to hers. I keep telling her no and told her i would be seeking a no contact order through my chain of command.


I hope you documented the poo outta this. A person who is afraid of you does not want to come and hang out around you.


I'm just going to turn my cell into evidence. Ill buy a new one I don't care. Its too precious of evidence. I have several emails from her refusing to meet me at the police station. That I wont see him if I don't allow her to come to my home. She begs at one point to let her come. To have things be the way they used to. I keep asking her why she keeps trying to get me alone when she is "Afraid for her life" and I'm only protecting myself from a false accusation and this is because she wants to cry wolf. She then says I only beat her and not my son in text. Then it went from all the time, to only a few times when i was drunk.. To our son needs both of us and we are stuck together as long as he's alive... Her response was to then offered me 2 extra days this weekend with our son. I'm not complaining at all. But kind of screws herself once again, seeing as 6 hours ago he was terrified of me..

Think this constitutes unstable in the judges eyes?

13 days until hearing...
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby Thermite » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:12 am

If you think the evidence will be that valuable, then make sure you have it in a form that can actually be entered as evidence in a court room. Make transcripts, save & print texts, have audio copies on CD, everything. My lawyer flat told me there's no way I could enter my cell phone or camera into evidence.
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby thecaptain24 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:42 am

Thermite wrote:If you think the evidence will be that valuable, then make sure you have it in a form that can actually be entered as evidence in a court room. Make transcripts, save & print texts, have audio copies on CD, everything. My lawyer flat told me there's no way I could enter my cell phone or camera into evidence.


I emailed my attorney to find out how to get those text into evidence, whether i needed to hand over the phone myself which im willing to do. Waiting on a response to find out how.
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby capslock » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:00 am

captain- look at the technology forum! Recent threads discuss saving texts.

I recently downloaded an app on my phone that allows me to save texts to written form and email or print out content, sender, date and time, etc which will make better evidence than submitting a phone.
...or I could be wrong.
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby Max » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:30 am

Sir - If she were to happen to be a DoD employee or have an AKO account... Then check with your lawyer regarding emailing from one DoD account to the other for everything. My ex and I both work DoD and if you check with your IMO you can find out about the Acceptable Use Policy in effect at your location, along with any relevant excerpts from AR 25-1 and/or AR 25-2. Saved me on a number of things. The whole, no expectation of privacy, disclaimer and having all the emails saved on the server with digital signatures in tact and verifiable seemed helpful. :wink:
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby whatnow? » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:39 am

Haven't seen the state you are in, but get yourself a recorder anyway. Even if it's not admissible in court, it could save you from a false DV charge in the future.
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby thecaptain24 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:32 pm

whatnow? wrote:Haven't seen the state you are in, but get yourself a recorder anyway. Even if it's not admissible in court, it could save you from a false DV charge in the future.


I didn't get the drop off, but i did secretly videotape the pick up on Christmas. I'll be secretly recording the pick up/drop off until the judge can see what hot mess I am dealing with and hopefully tell her not to come near my home. I'm trying not to piss her off since my mom is coming to town and hasn't seen my son in a year, and she finally switched a weekend so she can see him. My hearing is the day after I have to return him. But I will be protecting myself.

Colorado by the way. Already contacted the authorities, its legal.
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Re: Well, what do you think?

Postby thecaptain24 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:36 pm

Max wrote:Sir - If she were to happen to be a DoD employee or have an AKO account... Then check with your lawyer regarding emailing from one DoD account to the other for everything. My ex and I both work DoD and if you check with your IMO you can find out about the Acceptable Use Policy in effect at your location, along with any relevant excerpts from AR 25-1 and/or AR 25-2. Saved me on a number of things. The whole, no expectation of privacy, disclaimer and having all the emails saved on the server with digital signatures in tact and verifiable seemed helpful. :wink:


We do have ako accounts. Until recently most were from her ako email, now she's emailing from google. I'm sure i could get her to go back to emailing that way.
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